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Feeding

In the beginning we were feeding the bigger guys every 4-5 days with between 12-20 pieces of meet, fowl or fish; each piece approximately the average size of their heads. We feed the little guys every 3-4 days with between 4-9 pieces of meet, fowl or fish approximately the average size of their heads. Dead mice, bunnies, squirrels, birds and other assorted animals that the cat drags home all make for good feedings, as well. Occasionally, we will also put live fish (catfish, bass, etc...) into the middle pond for the big guys so they have the chance to hunt live prey, as well. And the little guys get june bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, and whatever other insects stumble into the house.

Since around 2004 or so the feedings have been once a week, approximately 8-10 pounds of raw meat each sitting.  The raw meat is usually beef but may be chicken, pork or any other raw meat we can get.  When we feed them chicken we continue to make sure that it is chicken with no preservatives and we still add calcium and reptile vitamins when there is not a great deal of bone in the meat.

We never feed them the same food more than three feedings in a row, to insure they receive the right nutritional contents. Fish have all the right ingredients; bones, gizzards, etc..., but also contain an oil on their scales, which, when ingested in abundance can cause crocs trouble. If we happen to have way too much boneless meat we will add a vitamin and calcium supplement especially designed for reptiles. With fowl it's a little trickier. Sometimes, depending on the size of the bone, we'll remove the bone to prevent problems. But mostly, crocodilians can handle wilde beast horns, so we don't worry too much.  With the furry creatures, they usually eat the entire thing, but they always excrete the hair, since hair and fur have no nutritional value for them. And with larger prey, we will cut it up so there are enough pieces for everyone to get a few pieces.

We used to make sure never to feed them during the day. Daytime was reserved for cleaning, maintenance, and other caiman and enclosure necessities. When they see, hear or smell us coming during the day they used to submerge and hide or get temperamental and splash around or become jumpy.  Of late, with the added upgrades tot heir enclosure, there has been far less need for maintainance, so the feedings occasionally occur during daytime hours.

At night, we would enter the enclosure with a flashlight and set the food on an upper, outer edge of the far end of the pond. This gives them the opportunity to jump out of the water a short distance and grab the food off the bank, as if they were really hunting in the wild - except that the food we place in there doesn't try to run away. They are also, naturally, nocturnal hunters, so this sits well with their evolutionary instincts. With the live fish, they also get the opportunity to ambush or attack moving, living prey.

During the day, we've found, that if we put the food on a long pair of "grabbers" the crocs will jump up and attack the food, so this has also helped with their natural hunting instincts and abilities.

In the beginning I would hold live feeder mice in my hand, by the tail, and let Daisy grab it out of my hand. However, one day she grabbed the head of the mouse and bit it right off the rest of the body and I decided that hand feeding was a bit too risky. Plus the fact that our smallest caiman is over three feet now, makes hand feeding more "Johnny Knoxville-esque" in nature.

It seems that country living has been very, very good to the caiman.  Check out the growth in just the short time from May of 2004 until September of 2004.

"Friday is payday."  These days, every Friday, we take a white bucket filled with whatever we're going to be feeding the caiman and enter their world and put out their food.  Sometimes I lure them up and out of the water to "attack" the food and other times we just lay it on a raised ledge.  The raised ledge gives them the opportunity to jump, attack and ambush their food.  Luring the bigger reptiles up and out of the water gives them the impression that they're attacking and chasing me out of their territory, as well.

We still try and switch the types of food they eat every few feedings in order to make sure they get all the vitamins and nutrients they need. Every few feedings we splurge and give them live mice, rats and other small rodents.  The food pieces are getting larger, the amount of food we need to feed them is bigger and the leftovers are almost nonexistent. 

 

Addendum: As I can think of no better place to do it, I am making an entry here about our skewt cutting.
Fifi's 7th skewt is cut.  He also has two distinguishable "Vee"'s on the back of his eck.
Daisy has two skewts cut at about the #12-13 position.  She has no stripes, but she has a black dot in the middle of her back.
Cuddles has one skewt cut at #11 on the black stripe. He has 2 dark ovals on the back of his neck.
Big Boy has a very square head and large black rectangles on the back of her neck, missing about 3 inches of tail.
Goldie has, at about the 10th and 14th skewts, little cutouts and very light markings.
These are the ones that we've marked, out of the eight that we have housed together, that we are keeping records on.(#) We're 99% sure that Angel is the mother and Cuddles is the father, but with 2 males and 6 females in the croc pond there is always a very slim chance we're wrong!

 

 

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Growth Chart

DOB
?
Sex Dist.
Marks
July 2003 Sept 2003 Oct 2003 Nov 2003 Jan 2004 March 2004 April 2004 May
2004
Sep
2004
Nov
2004
Dec
2004
Jan
2005
Feb
2005
Mar
2005
June
2006
Oct
2007
Jul
2008
Daisy 9/01 F * 18"   23" 25"   30"   32" 37.5"/7.5# 38" 38"/7.5#     39" 46"/19#   51"
Little Guy 10/98 F #*#       25"   27"   27.5" 32"/5.5#   32.5     36" 43"/16#   49"/19#
Fifi 3/00 M 7   30" 30" 31"   34"   34" 38.5"/8.5#   39"/8.5#     41" 50"/21#   53"/22#
Big Boy 4/00 F SH     37" 39"   39"   39" 41"/13#   42.5/13#   $$ 45" $45"/23#   $48"/24#
Cuddles 3/00 M 11   33" 34" 34"   36"   36" 38.5"/9#   38.5/10#     42" 49"/22#   56"/32#
Goldie 99? F Tt                        

11.5#

44" 47"/21#   52"/27#
Angel 99? F FH                     54"/15#       60"/44#   63"/37#
Frankie 12/94 uk S                     32.5"     35" 43"/16#   48"/20#
                                         
                                         


Key:
*     =     Daisy; No pronounced stripes; dot on center of back; 2 skewts cut @ 11 & 12.
7     =     Fifi; 7th skewt cut; "V"'s on back of neck; slanted 5th stripe on tail (not to be confused with Little Guy's 4th stripe) [AKA Big Male 2].
11   =     Cuddles; Cut made at the 11th skewt on the black stripe (AKA Big Male 1).
S     =     Frankie; Visible scarring on back where previous owner left heat element too close to basking area.
FH  =     Angel; Our largest caiman.  Easily distinguishable because of size and unnatural teeth position from the mouth rot.
SH  =     Big Boy; Squared head and neck; dark gray coloring; broken tail.
#*# =     Little Guy; Small head; broken tail healing; slanted 4th stripe on tail.
Tt    =     Goldie; Wild caught, toe tag on right rear foot between 2nd and 3rd toes; cuts made at about the 10th and 14th skewts.
$$   =     Part of Big Boy's tail has been broken or bitten off.  She measured 42".  We think she would be about 45" if she had the rest of her tail.
$     =     Since part of her tail is missing we know she'd be about 2-3" longer.
?     =     Approximately.  And only for those we have an idea about.

 

Crocodilian Cladogram


All credit for this grid belongs to Zane Neher - posted with permission

 

Recently (March 2005), Tony from Bayou Beasts, Terri, Zane Neher and a few others, including myself, were having an online conversation at Reptic Zone about crocodilians, species, subspecies and the like.  We were discussing the differences and the separations.  Terri brought up her sixth grade biology class and the breakdown of species including class, family and subspecies.  She noted that the way she remembered it was Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species.  I then made a statement that, as I remembered it, Crocodilians were broken down thus:

Crocodile:  American, Saltwater, Cuban, Freshwater, Mugger, Morelets, Nile, New Guinea, Philippine, Slender-snout, Orinoco, Siamese, Dwarf, False Gharial
Gharial:  Gharial
Alligator:  American, Chinese
Caiman:  Spectacled, Broad Snout, Yacare, Black, Cuvier’s Dwarf, Smooth Front

This led Zane to post his cladogram, which is reprinted here with his permission.  This is an excellent chart which suggests those things which are most often overlooked. My breakdown focuses on the 23 species of crocodilians and not the Subfamilies, the Genus or the subspecies of the animal.  Zane's cladogram looks at the real and hypothesized relationship of each grouping. 

If you'd like to learn more about this grid or ask Zane any questions, he can be found lurking the caiman and alligator forums on Reptic Zone until his web site is up and running.

 

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